Piers sits down with Dr. Jordan Peterson to unpack a whirlwind of topics—from Canada’s political mess to the crisis of young men, Trump’s tariff threats, Elon Musk’s rise, and a Netflix drama, “Adolescence” stirring debate. Piers calls it their best interview yet, moved by Peterson’s raw concern (he cries again) for a generation he’s trying to guide.
Canada’s Political Chaos: Trudeau Out, Carney In
Peterson kicks off with Canada’s wild political shifts over the past couple of months. Peterson firmly believes that Justin Trudeau’s decade as prime minister was a disaster—economic stagnation, divisive green policies, and a country split between fossil-fuel-rich west and liberal east. Before his resignation polls showed the Liberal party in free - fall with Conservative Pierre Poilievre set for a win. But Trudeau resigned, and Trump started trash-talking Canada with tariffs and “51st state” jabs. With anti-Trupism reaching a fever pitch, Mark Carney—ex-Bank of England bigwig - became the golden boy of the left and Poilievre collapsed in the polls. Peterson is not happy with this development, as older Canadians see Carney as a stable throwback to the roaring ‘90s. Peterson believes they shouldn’t. He is a hardcore climate activist who wants 75% of fossil fuels locked in the ground and every financial move tied to decarbonization. That’s a nightmare for Canada’s resource-driven west, like Alberta. Peterson fears Carney’s slick image hides a radical agenda that could fracture the country.
Mark Carney: The Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing
Peterson’s got no love for Carney. Peterson believes that while he’s got a nice resume—Bank of England governor, UN climate envoy—but dig deeper, and he’s trouble. Peterson bemoans the fact that Carney is all-in on net-zero, pushing central planning where climate trumps jobs and growth. He’s convinced Canadians he’s a free-market industrial savior, but Carney’s the guy who helped kneecap Canada’s economy under Trudeau. Now he’s posing as an outsider fix-it man, despite being neck-deep in the old policies. Peterson warns if Carney wins, the west—especially oil-heavy Alberta—might say “screw it” and actually consider secession. In essence, Peterson’s argument is that he is a polished, comfortable suit hiding a radical agenda, and Canadians are buying the act because they’re desperate for stability.
Elon Musk: The Left’s Fallen Hero
The conversation shifts to Elon Musk. Peterson’s a fan—Musk’s an engineer who gets stuff done, slashing Twitter’s staff by 75% and still making it better. He’s tearing through government waste, which pisses off the left who loved him as their green Tesla god. Now they’re torching Tesla dealerships because he backed Trump. Peterson sees it as proof of their fake morality—violence is fine if it’s for the “planet.” Musk’s detail-obsessed style could cut the fat from America’s $37 trillion debt, but the left’s gravy train of taxpayer-funded NGOs is drying up, and they’re threatened. Once again, Peterson does a great job point out the moral hypocrisy of the left. They cheered him as a climate savior, but when he sided with Trump and started slashing budgets, they turned feral. Keying Teslas and attacking owners isn’t about principle; it’s petty revenge dressed up as virtue. Peterson ties it to a broader pattern: the left’s “save the planet” shtick justifies anything—violence, control, whatever—as long as they’re the moral heroes. He calls it infantile, a shallow pose that collapses into chaos when challenged. Musk’s betrayal exposed their true colors, and Peterson’s glad someone’s finally calling it out.
Adolescence and the Crisis of Young Men
Netflix’s Adolescence—a hit drama about a 13-year-old boy turned killer by online misogyny—sparks a big debate. Some want it shown in schools to warn about “incel” culture, which Peterson finds outrageous. He says young men are in crisis, but not because they’re all violent creeps. He hits on some of his common themes here, saying that for 60 years, these young men have been hammered with anti-male propaganda—stuff like: competition’s evil, ambition’s patriarchal, attraction’s predatory. As he often says, public schools crush their natural energy, leaving them lost and isolated. No wonder they don’t date, drive, or marry—they’ve been demoralized into a corner. Sadly, figures like Andrew Tate fill the void with blustery “monster” vibes which so many of these lost young men find appealing. Peterson is clearn (as always) in hating Tate’s act but gets why it clicks: kids need something tough to latch onto when society’s made them soft.
Fixing the Mess: Masculinity as Adventure
Peterson’s fix isn’t more shame or overly leaning into feminism —it’s redefining masculinity as an epic journey. He references scripture in saying that shepherds were tough loners who fought wolves yet cared for lambs. That’s the model he believes is most helpful and encourages being strong, responsible, selfless, unlike Tate’s blatant misogyny or the left’s hedonistic catastrophe. He’s seen thousands of young men turn their lives around with simple steps: make your bed, tell the truth, take on burdens. It’s not a burden; it’s a quest that makes life rich, even when it’s hard. The West’s lost this, he says—our Judeo-Christian roots taught voluntary sacrifice, but we’ve trashed it for nihilism. Peterson’s emotional (cries again) because he’s watched it work for thousands of young people.
Conclusion
This podcast is Peterson at his rawest—blasting Canada’s liberal slide, Trump’s messy tactics, and the left’s fake virtue, all while pleading for young men lost in a culture that’s screwed them over. The first thirty minutes is primarily about Canada and Trump, to some extent - so listen to that if you like. But after that they get into a broader discussion around other issues outlined above. Clearly, his emotional reaction to Britain’s idea to brow beat boys by showing “Adolescence” in school is the moment that stands out to us. While we appreciated the emotion and the thoughtful take on several issues this was kind of Peterson 101. Watch if you want the latest on Canadian politics or if you are especially appalled at showing “Adolescence” to kids.
THE PODSCORE: 3 (out of 5) Stars.